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Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2015.03.09 13:26:56 -
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Lictas Alice wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Lictas Alice wrote:If it was only solo players vs larger gangs using links , i wouldn't mind. But in my experience , its usually people in faction ships/full set of implants/ with backup/ with links at a 100% safe place( generally FW zones). Or for example in HS , Sit a links boat in a NPC corp get a pretty safe advantage with no risk. It gives people another advantage that can't really be countered , which is why it should be changed. Logi? Focus them . Ecm? Use eccm Neuts? Cap boosters/nos Links?? Neutral links being on grid in highsec wouldn't affect them in any way whatsoever, they'd still not be legal targets. If you wanted to change how links are employed in highsec you'd have to mess with crimewatch. If you really want to open up that particular can of worms again that's fine by me, I mean they did such a great job last time. I know , i kinda hinted at that a few posts earlier. If they can't implement on grid links , i am pretty sure theres other things they could do. Links on kilmails would be great , all those 'solo' pilots that need links to win would be exposed and probbably stop using them No they wouldn't because none of them are claiming they are not using links. They are quite happy to even tell you what links they like to run and how they run them.
People use links because they can and so can the enemy so you should expect them to be using them to. We extensively use links because again it would be stupid not too. Just as it stupid not to fit deadspace modules if you have the isk, and to carry drugs. And even use that expensive faction hull. People are not afraid to get a leg up, and be open about it. Almost everyone i know with links things that it should be "on grid" only (but they should probably fix some grid foo stuff as well). But while it is not, there is no good reason not to use them.
CCP have said that in principal only on grid links is what they want, but the code base and programming is too difficult. However that didn't stop them from keeping mining links active inside a POS force field.
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Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2015.03.09 15:17:19 -
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Dude we don't do hashtags anymore. Well unless your on twitter or currently 16 and think it is something new.
And if you think its pay to win, then I guess you don't like deadspace mods, of faction hulls, or people that get their **** together and have drugs on hand?
Oh my you must hate people with friends that can always out number you.
Lets be honest you just don't like it when other people kill you. No matter how much you derped.
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Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2015.03.11 11:44:49 -
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We do use links a bit. But we also roam without them a bit too. Getting links into system and safed up is not always easy, it still has to go through the same gates and WHs as every other ship. And they are not magic. Link ships typically compromise a lot of the fit to get a full set of links. aka not a lot of tank. No prop mod, etc.
Taking on fleets with links is also not so bad. You just need to know what the links do and adapt. The difference between t2 hulls and t1 hulls is far larger, and that never stopped us taking on the fight.
CCP have said they can't make links grid/range only till there is a big code base change. So OGB is not changing anytime soon. Deal with it.
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Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:11:01 -
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Lfod Shi wrote:Solo player, one account, stands little to no chance. It's not a matter of energy or $$, we simply should not need more than one account to compete.
Whatever. Adapt or die, right? Well, I can't compete but I can run and hide with the best of 'em! So I do, even gave myself an award for it. Check my decorations. This is just not true. One of the best players i know in eve, has not just a single account, but a single character. He solos all the time and solos well.
If you think eve fights are all stats and nothing else, ie your an orbit f1 monkey, sure your out matched. If however you try and fly your ship/ships properly its a whole different game.
And really your saying that you never want to be in a fight your not sure of winning. Good fights come in many shapes. Sometimes because you end up winning a fight you had no business winning at all.
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Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:00:03 -
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Budda Kuha wrote:Brian Harrelstein wrote:Budda Kuha wrote:Not everybody is willing or able to run a booster. Forcing people to run a second account to compete in small scale or solo pvp is a huge turn off. Cry some more. If you can't compete because of an enemy command ship booster, then bring more people, or bite the bullet and boost your fleet as well. What are you going to complain about next, blobs? Cynos? Titan bridges? You don't understand the problem. Ogb hurts solo and small gang pvp mostly. The larger the fleet the less of an issue ogb is. If you want to comment further do some research on the topic before steretypically labeling any critcism beyond your understanding and ingame experience as whining. Links help small ganks plenty. How can links not help a small gang? Mostly people complaining here are complaining that its not *true* solo and other crap. Like using a scout is cheating or something equally stupid.
We often roam with 2-5 ships between 2-4 players. We brings links often. Not always. We find it help a bit. Esp. with shiny fits.
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:52:17 -
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Oh God. For the hundredth time. CCP have said it can't be done until the code has been rewritten. It is a massive project and they don't want to give ETAs for it. Right now it would melt the servers, and even 10 people in system would be in TiDi.
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Posted - 2015.03.15 14:06:50 -
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Can't believe this thread is still going!
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Posted - 2015.03.16 15:55:01 -
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Budda Kuha wrote:You should also change your tone unless you like sounding like an egomaniac little brat. You should have one of those reader things that read your own comments back to you before posting them. It may help out with serious problems with your own posts.
And in other news. LINKS ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. CCP have said so. Again and Again. Get over yourselfs.
And if i go to the effort of skilling up a links pilot, why shouldn't i get an advantage? If i go to the effort of having a scout, why should that be bad? Seems there is just a lot of butthurt for people that can't be bothered with getting links, or even worse hate the idea of losing any fight.
If you want a perfectly even playing field, go play chess or Go.
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